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Rank: Administration  Joined: 4/18/2008 Posts: 257 Location: Nashville, TN
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It’s Here. Gibson USA’s 2008 Les Paul Standard.Gabriel J. Hernandez | 07.17.2008 -h.jpg) Improving a legend isn’t easy, but it has happened. Introducing the 2008 Les Paul Standard from Gibson USA—an elegant revision of a true classic, with several upgrades and new features that make this new model the best Les Paul Standard ever produced. Based on research from consumer feedback and a drive to uphold and enhance the legacy of the Les Paul, Gibson USA’s 2008 Les Paul Standard sets a musical instrument benchmark for excellence and achievement, beginning with a new asymmetrical neck profile that makes it one of the most comfortable and playable necks ever offered on any guitar. The neck also features an enlarged neck tenon for maximum wood contact between the neck and body. Locking Grover tuners are also a first for the Les Paul, giving the 2008 Standard an improved gear ratio of 18:1 and making string changes a snap. All newly designed controls, including custom-made, gold-plated potentiometers made by Bourns, one of the industry’s leading makers of guitar electronics, give the 2008 Standard a new level of sonic clarity and intensity. It’s also one of the first Gibson USA models to utilize the revolutionary Plek system—a computer-controlled setup that carefully measures and dresses each fret, accurately measuring the height between the fingerboard and each string, virtually eliminating string buzz and providing unbeatable playability. A set of Gibson’s traditional Burstbucker Pro humbuckers help deliver the powerful punch expected from a Les Paul, featuring Alnico V magnets with slightly higher output and a more open sound, faithfully capturing the magic of Gibson’s legendary PAF pickups of the 1950s. A chambered mahogany body gives the 2008 Standard enhanced resonance, and a plain or flame maple top pays homage to the Les Pauls of the late 1950s and early 1960s. Other new features include TonePros’ locking Nashville Tune-o-matic and stopbar tailpiece in chrome finish and strap lock buttons. Each 2008 Les Paul Standard comes with Gibson USA’s standard black snakeskin case. Play the new 2008 Les Paul Standard from Gibson USA and experience the evolution of the greatest electric guitar of all time. The 2008 Les Paul Standard will be available at select dealers beginning August 1, 2008. Click here for detailed specs, a photo gallery, and 360 imagery of the 2008 Les Paul Standard. Click here for original article on gibson.com >>
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 4/11/2008 Posts: 685 Location: Glen Head, New York
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Gotta ask: why did they abandon the "weight relief" rhetoric and start calling it "chambered"? You know there's going to be a backlash, so can someone provide details on what they're doing to these bodies? I don't mind swiss-cheese but I would like them to divulge exactly where they hollowed out the weight. "Why don't you just make 10 louder, and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?"
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Rank: Member  Joined: 2/23/2008 Posts: 19 Location: Columbus Ohio
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Have to say love the idea of this guitar. Want to play one... Would love to see a custom like this.
But is the only actually new thing about the 2008 standard the neck? Everything else was pretty standard on the GT other then the pickups.
As a gt owner, really want to see this guitar...
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 6/16/2008 Posts: 1,451 Location: Vauxhall, Alberta, CANADA!!!
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I don't really like the 2008 standards myself. It's mainly an aesthetic thing, but the strap buttons look WAAAY too big, and that Neutrik jack thingy is just too futurstic for my taste. It doesn't match a Les Paul's vintage "feel." (at least not the standards. it'd be ok on a Robot guitar...) on another note, does anyone know if they're getting rid of the old standards? they still have them on the site... i just e-mailed Gibson's service people, so I'll keep you posted. seriously gassing for a 1965 Epiphone Olympic.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 8/1/2008 Posts: 530 Location: South Carolina
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those stap buttons aren't huge. they are straplocks. the picture simply is showing both halves (that is including the part mounted on the strap). the locking jack really isn't that futuristic either. they have been around for quite some time... you usually see them on basses. i actually thought it was less of an aesthetic thing, and more functionality changes than anything! it seems they are making a nice new player guitar. the historics (which i love) are there for anyone wanting a more old style paul. the people wanting something more modern have been neglected since 2002 when they starting making the standards closer to the old style. it makes much more since to have each base covered rather than have the "historic series" and the "almost kinda sorta similar to the historics but not quite there standard series".
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Rank: Newbie  Joined: 8/6/2008 Posts: 8 Location: Mississippi
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SRV-Zeppelin wrote:I don't really like the 2008 standards myself. It's mainly an aesthetic thing, but the strap buttons look WAAAY too big, and that Neutrik jack thingy is just too futurstic for my taste. It doesn't match a Les Paul's vintage "feel." (at least not the standards. it'd be ok on a Robot guitar...)
on another note, does anyone know if they're getting rid of the old standards? they still have them on the site... i just e-mailed Gibson's service people, so I'll keep you posted.
Have you PLAYED one? I did. I like. Feels better than my old 1973 LP Custom by a mile. Sounds better too.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 8/7/2008 Posts: 156 Location: Corona, CA
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blkjazz wrote:Have you PLAYED one? I did. I like. Feels better than my old 1973 LP Custom by a mile. Sounds better too. I've played one, or tried, I can't deal with the neck being big on one side. Don't mind the chambering but they should have made a seperate guitar for this, not make it the "Standard". Other features to me are worthless, I would have to remove the jack as I feel there is no need. There's not much need to the locking tuners on a guitar without a trem, although it does make stringing a little easier, I prefer the greenkeys. Stopbar and Bridge are decent. I would replace the straplocks with good ones. Last but certainly not least I would rip out the circuit board mounted pots to remove all the sillyness with the controls and put some quality components in there. All in all, I don't care for it and would not buy or recommend it. Sorry Gibson, but you shouldn't mess with the standard...
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Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 6/14/2008 Posts: 99 Location: New York
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tonebias wrote:
I've played one, or tried, I can't deal with the neck being big on one side. Don't mind the chambering but they should have made a seperate guitar for this, not make it the "Standard". Other features to me are worthless, I would have to remove the jack as I feel there is no need. There's not much need to the locking tuners on a guitar without a trem, although it does make stringing a little easier, I prefer the greenkeys. Stopbar and Bridge are decent. I would replace the straplocks with good ones. Last but certainly not least I would rip out the circuit board mounted pots to remove all the sillyness with the controls and put some quality components in there. All in all, I don't care for it and would not buy or recommend it.
Sorry Gibson, but you shouldn't mess with the standard...
I was hoping the "new" standard and the Les Paul axcess would be a nice addition. Quality is going down hill . Ideas @ the CS stagnent . Customer support touts itself as always available , and it is , but what good is the support when they know nothing of problems , or they never call you back .
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 204 Location: gonzales,la
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i bought this guitar and i had bad luck with it.minor damage on three models and bad set up.first one had a sawcut on bottom contour,tone controls were pressing against guitar.i brought it back and waited for over two weeks.then my salesperson told me my other one was the same,then the third one was badly scratched.so i got my refund.i don,t think they were coming directly from factory.warehouse outlet.it did play good though.i was very frustrated.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 2,282 Location: CA
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i have played a few of em the necks feel very nice, but the fretboards always seem to be real dry and ugly (blame GC) they dont sound like a les paul should sound like, but everyone has their own opinion on what a lester should sound like anyway 2595 saved twords my next LP
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 10/15/2008 Posts: 4,560
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I did a comparison to my 07 LP. Perhaps it's my playing style or big hands, but I couldn't tell the difference in the neck. I already have Dunlop straplocks so the 08 model isn't enough of a difference to make me run out and buy one.
Though I will say, I liked the locking 1/4 in plug. I mag buy one and install it.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 974 Location: Seattle
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Homz wrote:I did a comparison to my 07 LP. Perhaps it's my playing style or big hands, but I couldn't tell the difference in the neck. I already have Dunlop straplocks so the 08 model isn't enough of a difference to make me run out and buy one.
Though I will say, I liked the locking 1/4 in plug. I mag buy one and install it.
just loop your cable through your strap, it will never fall out and you won't need to change the guitar at all.
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Rank: Member  Joined: 2/23/2008 Posts: 19 Location: Columbus Ohio
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Like a lot of Gibson products... Haven't seen one in my City yet, and being this is a large music market it's frustrating to have to buy everything online with your fingers crossed.
But i have to say the strap locks and the nuitrik are wonderful. one strap multiple guitars, quick release, much better then having the old style buttons and the strap pop off in the middle of a solo....
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Rank: Newbie
Joined: 7/13/2008 Posts: 3 Location: Escondido
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LerxstLee wrote:
I was hoping the "new" standard and the Les Paul axcess would be a nice addition. Quality is going down hill . Ideas @ the CS stagnent . Customer support touts itself as always available , and it is , but what good is the support when they know nothing of problems , or they never call you back .
The support I've received from CS has been outstanding. Roger B. in particular, has been very helpful. I was upset with the tall narrow frets on my LP DC AAA. After playing it in, I find the inherent quality of the ax makes the fret height seem trivial. The fret height is something that can be changed. CS replaced the case for me because the first one had a loose rivet in one of the hinges. My experience with Gibson CS has changed my previously negative attitude toward the company. varaha Escondido 11/6/08
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Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 10/15/2008 Posts: 72 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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I'm not too keen on the "new" standards either. Strange as it may seem, I think anything other than "green key" tuners look weird on a standard... The straplocks are a good idea as standard, but I usually fit dunlop straplocks anyway... Basically, i'd save about £14 there. Having said that, the new standards are an extra £100 over here. I don't like the new input jack one bit... It looks out of place. I always use a wireless unit anyway, so the lead is wrapped around the strap a few times for good measure and the actual wireless unit itself goes in my back pocket. Used to attach it to my strap but I had a few accidents before a gig. My Gear:
2004 Les Paul Standard Heritage Cherry Sunburst (The Best)
2006 Les Paul Standard Goldtop with P90's
Peavey Valveking 100w Half Stack. (The best reasonably price Valve halfstack. Pure Tone. John Sykes, ac/dc, thin lizzy, you name it, it can do it)
Peavey Valveking 50w 1X12 (so good, I bought a halfstack as my main amp)
Dunlop Crybaby Wah (what else are feet for?)
Sennheiser wireless guitar kit... not the best, saves me tripping over cables on stage
Various Boss Stompboxes... Delay, chorus, flanger etc.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 11/24/2008 Posts: 524 Location: Hollywood, FL
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The whole "chambering" thing really irritates me...If it weren't for that I'd be more open to checking this fiddle out. -Damien
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Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 11/21/2008 Posts: 892 Location: UK
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'Chambering' increases waste and manufacturing costs, which have to be passed on to the customer. It also undermines the core principles that were behind the introduction of the Les Paul guitar.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 1/13/2009 Posts: 123 Location: Australia
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Gibson USA’s 2008 Les Paul Standard. dude that Gibson USA 2008 Les Paul Standard looks awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 11/5/2008 Posts: 1,018 Location: Chapel Hill NC US OF A! AKA North Kakalaky
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I'm guessing that most of you would have been happy if the major auto makers had stuck with the flathead engine. Things change. If they didn't, you would all be playing acoustics. 1962 LP/SG Special - 1998 LP Studio DC W/EMG 81/85 pups - '98 Squier Fat Strat - '04 Hand Built Teleblaster W/Vintage Vibe pups - Hand Built Lap Steel W/Fender pups - Kona K2SB A/E Don't laugh, it sounds great! '09 Fender Deluxe VM - Fender Sattelite - Marshall G80R CD - Fender Champion 600 - Orange Crush 10
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Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 11/21/2008 Posts: 892 Location: UK
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So you'd rather have a 2008 Standard than a '59 ?
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