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Rank: Member  Joined: 9/14/2009 Posts: 15 Location: Bremen, Germany
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andi wrote:I have no idea how to use this site. I am trying to find out what the serial number on a les paul I have means. HELP You could try this link: serial number
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 1/13/2009 Posts: 2,165 Location: Canada
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Guitarandfeather wrote:Then I'm wondering why it's being advertised as non weight relieved? But they're not advertised as "non weight-relieved." They're advertised as "non chambered." Putting holes in it whether to chamber it or swiss cheese it kinda achieves the same effect, does it not? No, different effect on tone. So calling the guitar "non weight relieved" would be considered false advertising, no? Gibson is very up front about this, no false advertising...just people assuming they are still all solid. A non weight relieved guitar would in my view be considered a solid body guitar. That's what historic reissues are for... Hector Arcadius wrote:What would be the point of offering a new, ''improved'' version of this model and advertise it as such, if I didn't have solid proof that I am not loosing any aspect of the characteristics that made this product such a success for many, many years and generations of players? So you could use pieces of wood that would otherwise would be too heavy. You can't exactly say the characteristics haven't changed over the years. Play a '50s Les Paul, then play a '70s Les Paul, then an '80s Les Paul, then a newer chambered one. Non of them will sound or feel the same.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 4/6/2008 Posts: 2,282 Location: Nashville Area
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Are Nine wrote: Play a '50s Les Paul, then play a '70s Les Paul, then an '80s Les Paul, then a newer chambered one. Non of them will sound or feel the same. /chuckle He's right, you know  oxxx{============================>
ChanMan
Being smart is a lot like being pretty... if you have to tell folks you are, you aren't.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 42 Location: Denver, CO
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dcooper830 wrote:I think history will smile very favorably on the chambered Les Pauls. They sound amazing! Huge resonant growling tone with plenty of bite.
My chambered Standard Faded is a friggin MONSTER!
I really don't understand what the big deal is about chambered or weight relieved. If the guitar plays and sounds good, nothing else should really matter. First yours is also a Faded Model and there is a lot of discussions on the sound being attributed to the finish. Not the chambering or swiss cheese holes. I also have a Standard Faded from early 2005 which has the cheese holes and I'd stand it up to any other model! Can't tell you what to buy? You got to dance with that girl by yourself. ALL LP's sound different. One will be amazing and the same model next to it will be ok. IMHO. But I'd never buy a new Les Paul! To many good deals on pristine used ones.
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: 4/6/2008 Posts: 2,282 Location: Nashville Area
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Xinnix wrote:Can't tell you what to buy? You got to dance with that girl by yourself.
ALL LP's sound different. One will be amazing and the same model next to it will be ok. IMHO.
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ChanMan
Being smart is a lot like being pretty... if you have to tell folks you are, you aren't.
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 9/12/2009 Posts: 262 Location: USA
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Stewie wrote:I have a 1996 Standard, a 2008 Studio, and a 2006 Classic Gold top. If I was to buy again I would only buy solid body non chambered guitars.
I admit the Chambered bodies are light, compared to the solids and I think this would only affect someone who plays in a band or gigs. The solid body has a much more mellow tone to it. The Standard and the Studio have the same pickups and there is a definite difference in the tone. I am having some checking issues with the gold top. (Lines around the pots etc) that look like they could be a problem down the road. Another issue is what type of music are you playing and what pickups do you prefer? I would look for a used Standard before they became chambered, they just feel Like an LP and sound great. I've got a '91 Standard and a '98 R8. I've haven't weighed them, but I swear the Standard weighs more that the R8. My Standard weighs a freakin' metric ton! But differences in wood density from guitar to guitar won't usually be so great (I don't think) that a chambered or swiss-cheesed LP built with dense wood would very often be heavier than a solid body built with less-dense wood. Having said that, I REALLY do need to weigh my guitars....
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 209 Location: Sydney/Australia
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ChanMan wrote:Go play them. Solidbody, swiss cheese, chambered are all just construction methods and mean exactly dick once the guitar is in your hands and being played.
Go. Play. Them. You cannot read how it will play and sound for you on a forum. 'nuff said. Though would be interested to know the results of a comparison test.  _____________________________________________________________________________________________ http://www.soundclick.co....cfm?member=Lowdown+inc
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