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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 9/14/2008 Posts: 1,874 Location: Somewhere in Space
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OK, due to "popular" demand I rerecorded some more tracks. I recorded both my '08 Les Paul Standard Premium Plus (chambered) and '05 Les Paul Standard (weight relieved) using the same amp settings. Note that both have BB Pros for pups. This time I didn't use any effects. There are two clean runs and one dirty one; each one repeated with the other guitar. Here is the link. So, which one is the chambered one?
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#2 Dirty Chambered ... ______________________________
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i like the 2nd one better... ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 11/5/2008 Posts: 1,041 Location: Chapel Hill NC US OF A! AKA North Kakalaky
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Just an observation really. The first guitar has a fuller bottom end tone, the second a crisper high mid. Don't know how that would apply to chambered or not, so I can't really tell which is which, but I will say that the first one is chambered. 1962 LP/SG Special - 1998 LP Studio DC W/EMG 81/85 pups - '98 Squier Fat Strat - '04 Hand Built Teleblaster W/Vintage Vibe pups - Hand Built Lap Steel W/Fender pups - Kona K2SB A/E Don't laugh, it sounds great!
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AXE® wrote:#2 Dirty Chambered ... +1
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 4/6/2008 Posts: 2,691 Location: Nashville Area
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1st clean riff #1 is chambered. 2nd clean riff and dirty riff #2 is chambered oxxx{============================> ChanMan Thermionik wrote:
I don't just respect the other guys point of view - I try to understand it too.
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Let's liven things up here.  I'm gonna say #1 is weight-relieved because it sounds more like a real Les Paul than #2 does... ___________________
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ChanMan wrote:1st clean riff
#1 is chambered.
2nd clean riff and dirty riff
#2 is chambered
Oops, sorry for the confusion. I didn't change the order of the guitars in the 3 riffs that sound the same. There are a total of 6 riffs (2 sets of repeated ones). The choices are, in the straight order of the riffs, (counting the repeated ones as a riff): Riff #1, Riff #3, Riff #5 - > All Chambered or All Weight Relieved Riff #2, Riff #4, Riff #6 - > All Chambered or All Weight Relieved Another way to state this is riff #1 had Guitar A and riff #2 (which sounds the same as #1) had Guitar B; riff #3 had Guitar A and riff #4 (which sounds the same as #3) had Guitar B; finally riff #5 had Guitar A and riff #6 (which sounds the same as #5) had Guitar B. Sorry, I had my rocket scientist geek hat and we think in weird ways. So is Guitar A or B the chambered one?
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 4/3/2008 Posts: 579 Location: NYC
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I'd have to go with number two being chambered. It sounded much more crisp and "hollow" compared the the first one. I like the richness and warmth of the first one much more.
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I can't tell, my ears must be shot... ____________________
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Are Nine wrote:You f*cking Greeks, always confusing people!! Yeah I know. I'm a Geeky Greek to boot....
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 12/31/2008 Posts: 295 Location: Nuernberg, Germany
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I also voted for Number 2, but they´re both sounding good, no matter which one´s chambered.
Kurt
Cool test by the way!
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KSG_Standard wrote:I can't tell, my ears must be shot... ...same here...
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Number one sounds better. Number one is swiss cheese. Solid body
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rocketman wrote:
Oops, sorry for the confusion. I didn't change the order of the guitars in the 3 riffs that sound the same. There are a total of 6 riffs (2 sets of repeated ones). The choices are, in the straight order of the riffs, (counting the repeated ones as a riff):
Riff #1, Riff #3, Riff #5 - > All Chambered or All Weight Relieved
Riff #2, Riff #4, Riff #6 - > All Chambered or All Weight Relieved
Another way to state this is riff #1 had Guitar A and riff #2 (which sounds the same as #1) had Guitar B; riff #3 had Guitar A and riff #4 (which sounds the same as #3) had Guitar B; finally riff #5 had Guitar A and riff #6 (which sounds the same as #5) had Guitar B.
Sorry, I had my rocket scientist geek hat and we think in weird ways.
So is Guitar A or B the chambered one?
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Number 2 sounds slightly louder to me. Is there a slight difference in pickup height ?
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80LPC wrote:Number 2 sounds slightly louder to me. Is there a slight difference in pickup height ? I checked the pickup height and they are the same. You are on to something though that I noticed too...
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Rank: Advanced Member  Joined: 12/24/2008 Posts: 438 Location: Seattle, WA
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-1 vote on #1. Accidentally clicked it, Always think that's the link >,< I'm for #2 ____________________
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#2 is my guess "If the doors of perception were to be cleansed everything will appear as it really is... Infinite."
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